Follow up to Dan's Question /LPB

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: Hi Dan here a short info about a part of your question. : Actually thanks for your question and I apologize , if sometimes the answer is confusing. Now here the question , whether the Lactate is lower in some athletes , if they go race pace after the LBP went up .. : Answere : Yes and no : : If I look " our " athletes over the last 4 -6 years , which followed some kind of different training approach than the comon one . ( actually there are a lot of other coaches out there , they do it very similar ) : we see a steady trend ( every year lower ) of maximal lactate in all our tests , and a much lower lactate in the same intensity .The numbers are averages out of 15 Tests in that year. : ( Ex. of one athelete : 1998 / max . 200 w / Lac 16.2 : 1999 max 240 w. 12.3 / 2000 max 260 /Lac 7 .6 : 2001 280 w 6.5 / 2002 280 w 7.4 / 2003 340 w 5.4 . : HR at max always 180 - 185. : Recovery Lactate Dropping down to 140 HR for 5 min. : 98 - 16.2 to 12.4 // 99 12.3 to 6.4 //00 7.6 - 4.5// : 01 6.5 -2.7 //02 7.4 to 3.4 // 03 5.4 to 1.4 . : LBP : 98 145 //99 155 //00 155 //01 165 // 02 160 // 03 170 // : Watt on LBP 98 140 //99 170 //00 190 //01 220 //02 220 //03 290 : Why this changes and what : : Here some ideas : In any year in the last 6 years , with any athlete , where we really focused on structural stresses , we had a good respond. When we changed to more functional stresses , we had an inital good start of the race season with a plateau after app. 6 - 8 weeks into the season.( Typical on this athlete 2001 and 2002 ) in the 2002 season we switched to more , what some people would refer LT training and just below. ???. : In 2003 we went back to strong stresses of structural units and we see for the moment a good respond . We changed a lot in the coordination and pedal technique to try to work on the economy of the pedal stroke, similar as you would do in cross country skiing. : I personally think , that because the pedals ( cranks ) go around anyway , we forget the part of pedal technique very easy. : A Test of over 150 cyclists last year in Spain showed a disturbing picture of actual bike economy even up to the top athletes. : We got a back up by a german study , who tested 10 national team members , and only one of them had a more or less okay pedal stroke. That does not mean , they were bad cyclists, no they were still the top in the country , with the question remaining , what if ??? : For the test set ups. Each of our stronger sthletes has a test set up , he never changes . ( Ryder has his taxc free rollers since the last 7 years with one spec. bike on it ( no breaks just a simple bike , same tire pressure , same set up , same elastic. , and uses a power tap as a wattage measure. : Kris , Geoff and Martina have all a taxc basic and never changed the setup ( screw , same wheel and tire pressure , all the same . ( The watt may not reflect the real watt , but intraindividual we have the comparison over a long time. If we compare inter individual we use in the camps the same set up for all the athletes. ( Leave the back wheel in the trainer and put the bike on it. : I work for the moment on a comparison study from the german MTB Max Watt , Race watt and body weigth watt ratio and compare it with our datas collected over the last 6 years and the results in the international races . WC , and worlds . And it is very interesting to see how in what races which athlete can bring the result. ( Athletic course , versus technical course. power course versus climbing course. : So we see the weakness of each athlete and we may be able to work on this weakness. : Ex : CC in Whistler . Athlete A Climbing section 4 best time , downhill section 34 best time. : Very clear . : Loop 2 18 riders passed , but 3 min slower loop than loop 3 , only 3 passes to do. : What's wrong here. ? : Athlete B in whistler. Climb . Fastes climb , but lost 3 min in that loop after that effort ? : Atlete C. Fast . too fast start , His recovery lactate is the slowest from all the athletes and he just can't afford to go that hard out. : Athlete D Max Lac. 7 - 8 mmol . Recovery HR after 3 -5 min 1.3. This athlete can go with one speed , that's all out and than back of by 5 - 10 beats , recover there and keep the pace up to the end. : So different athletes different approaches , different trainings . : How ? we do not know, , what to do ? regular assessments and re planning the proposal. : PS : Short info to Eric : : You are right we do also hard trainings . ( See the cross champion ship in Vancouver. Some of our athletes used this event as a hard training out of a stuctural training week with a block of 30 h. LBP - 30 with different ideas during the rides .

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