Test result answer for Kevin


[ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Welcome to the Fact Canada Forum ] [ FAQ ]

Posted by Juerg (207.194.220.65) on December 03, 2003 at 18:21:26:

Hi Kevin :
Here short some points to your test result:
It is actually not an unusual result, if you consider the following possibilities.
The reocery line can be nearly equal with the first part of the test :
1. You have a very strong endurance athlete with a very high percentage of STF fibres on the one side, but a still very good activity on FTF x fibres on the other side
As you know from all our discussions, the actual value of lactate measured in the system is much lower than the actual production in the muscle itself.
If you have an athlete with a very high LBP ( 85 - 90 % of his max performance , he will have a very flat classical lactate test with an increase just at the end of his test. This means , if he really is pushing himself to the limit , he will squeeze one more step out and in this intensity level clearly will use his FTFx system and FTF b. They seem to produce easier lactate , but really seem to have more difficulties to " recycle it.
You can see this picture top athletes like Geoff ,Ryder and Martina.
If they do a test on their own , they have a good result with a Lactate at the end of 4 - 6 mmmol.
Their recovery linie ( Ryder and Martina is in this situation basically identical with the performance linie.
If I test them , they go harder ( higher max Lactate and the recovery linie is not identical anymore.
Summary: Athletes with a very high amount of STF fibres in the whole body ( Trunk , upperbody and legs ) will recover faster. If they not push all out , they recover not just metabolically fast , but also performance wise.
That's the strength of ryder. He can go out very hard , put not pushing limit and still is able to maintain a high level .
2.You see a similar trend of the test in injured athletes.
In your case your athlete had problem by 210 Watt.
resp. she complaine about pain or problem by this intensity.
The fact is , she had actual problem already before the test.
So it may be fair to say , that from the beginning of the test her weaker leg was not able to fullfill the task. From 90 watt up to perhaps 130 / 150 she was able to bike , but had for sure more power on her good leg, Once the intensity reached a level, where the weak leg was not any more of any help , in fact she had to drag this leg with the other leg, she started to work with one leg plus the rest of her body.
The test result is a result, where she was not able to go with both legs close to her limit. So once her good leg failed , she stopped, but in fact she would have been able with 2 legs to go much higher.
So the intensities below the 150 watts were very easy and again 2 leg exercises and she had no problem to do the same again up to an intensity , where her bad leg was not too much of a problem.
Summary : You did a 2 leg test till up to 170 watt and switched to a one leg test with failure , and moved back down to a 2 leg test.
The two leg test was finished before onset of fatigue.
So if you test any other person and you stop just short arround the LBP you will always have a nearly identical recovery linie.
To back this up you have a few options.
1. Take a classical lactate test and you may see , that the lactate curve starts to climb , as soon the person complians about pain. ( That's the switch from 2 leg to 1 leg. )
2. EMG on the bad leg will increase to a certain level , and than flatten out , as soon pain is here.
( actually EMG is a good way of checking for objective pain )
3. You can use power or smart cranks and you will see , how much the good leg may have to lift the bad leg and how early.
I hope this gives you some ideas . Cheers Juerg



Follow Ups:



Post a Followup

Name:
E-Mail:

Subject:

Comments:

Optional Link URL:
Link Title:
Optional Image URL:


[ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Welcome to the Fact Canada Forum ] [ FAQ ]